Warning, kind of long.
Where did the animosity between the two fanbases/teams come from? When did the Cards choosing to make fun of the Cubs relentlessly for not winning a WS start?
I grew up a Red Sox fan. Diehard. I HATE the Yankees. HATE them. I don't ever want to see them win a World Series. But that's a different vibe. That rivalry had genuine hate on both sides for years. And the rivalry had two of the most intense fanbases in baseball for years. So it was always easy to grasp for me from a young age.
But it has never felt like that as an outside watching Cubs-Cards. Outsiders watching Yankees-Red Sox could feel it. And it culminated with Pedro throwing Don Zimmer to the ground. If you didn't get it before that, you definitely did after.
When I have always though best fanbases in terms of pure passion (as a whole), I've always thought Red Sox, Yankees, Cards. For years. If you want to get a feel for SEC football intensity in a baseball stadium, those have ALWAYS been the places I felt you could feel it. Just a stadium hanging on critical points of games in a July matchup. Even against far inferior opponents. It's just palpable there.
All the years of me going to Wrigley, I've never felt that. It was more like a cool social outing to fans in Wrigleyville, to me. It was like fans didn't really care about the game. They just wanted to go grab beers and hang out. Cubs fans will hate that, and I get it. And I have no animosity for the Cubs at all. I love going to Wrigley. But it's just always felt like that as an outsider. Hell, I've been to Cincinatti games and the fanbase felt more intense than Cubs fans.
Where did the animosity between the two fanbases/teams come from? When did the Cards choosing to make fun of the Cubs relentlessly for not winning a WS start?
I grew up a Red Sox fan. Diehard. I HATE the Yankees. HATE them. I don't ever want to see them win a World Series. But that's a different vibe. That rivalry had genuine hate on both sides for years. And the rivalry had two of the most intense fanbases in baseball for years. So it was always easy to grasp for me from a young age.
But it has never felt like that as an outside watching Cubs-Cards. Outsiders watching Yankees-Red Sox could feel it. And it culminated with Pedro throwing Don Zimmer to the ground. If you didn't get it before that, you definitely did after.
When I have always though best fanbases in terms of pure passion (as a whole), I've always thought Red Sox, Yankees, Cards. For years. If you want to get a feel for SEC football intensity in a baseball stadium, those have ALWAYS been the places I felt you could feel it. Just a stadium hanging on critical points of games in a July matchup. Even against far inferior opponents. It's just palpable there.
All the years of me going to Wrigley, I've never felt that. It was more like a cool social outing to fans in Wrigleyville, to me. It was like fans didn't really care about the game. They just wanted to go grab beers and hang out. Cubs fans will hate that, and I get it. And I have no animosity for the Cubs at all. I love going to Wrigley. But it's just always felt like that as an outsider. Hell, I've been to Cincinatti games and the fanbase felt more intense than Cubs fans.
