Lady Vols lose and it’s back to fire Holly time.. lol we are a really dumb board and we embarrass ourselves on so many level..
Holly has had no losing season and she never had the players Pat did.. Now she does except PG play and loses by 10 to a top 10 team who will be ranked top 5 soon enough. yet here we are firing the coach that landed 2 top recruiting teams in nation and play all Freshman and 1 So and loses one game thus far. damn we really are dumb.
Before you say I am wrong let me remind you of how we treated Barnes before 2017 run..
Quotes concerning Barnes and Vols BBall before 1st ncaa run -2017
10/2016
“Barnes is a good man. As straight and honest as they come (he won't even post "exaggerated player heights). He's a very good floor coach and good man to "fix" a program that has several years of "issues".
“But.......his recruiting is shameful for a program of this size. We're not KY or one of the 6-10 "blue bloods".....but we should be a respectable Top 25 program most years.”
Now that the program is "stabilized" the sooner we find a more all around top coach the better. We will never be better than lower third of SEC with his recruiting effort. Nobody is a good enough floor coach to make up for the lack of a reasonable level top talent.”
His retirement after this season would be very good timing.
“the highest the program had ever been ranked to start the year.”
“He is going to use our program to experiment with his new coaching philosophy. I don't want new barnes I want old barnes.”
“Barnes is a really good coach, but he is only getting it half right, imho. He still has time to get it right, but if he's not willing to be that guy who went nose to nose with Dean Smith anymore, he needs to get into the mission field with his daughters full time. Bruce Pearl, for all his flaws and warts, was our guy. He's wading into a crowd of rednecks and yelling "Go Vols". That's how most feel about him (except for the pathetic VFF).”
“And I like Coach Barnes. Hope he's successful here. But that was dumb, and kissing Rob Lanier's butt to get him here was dumb.”
“I like Barnes and think he will do exceptionally well for the Vols. His style and expertise on evaluating and developing talent is solid. “
“Please don't ever recruit for the univ of tenn, because you'd be the worst ever at it. You constantly have to try to pull someone from someone else over and over again. You seem to think that Barnes walks into a room , signs five guys, and ascends into heaven. Doesn't work that way.”
“I'm glad Barnes is here. But if he keeps doing what he's doing, and only that, he'll fail. He isn't recruiting at a medium level. He needs to get out there and show why he's a hall of fame coach.”
“I think he coaches hard. I think he coaches fantastically during games and gets the most out of his players.”
But that's only half the equation. You have to have great players to win, that's beyond debatable. And Rick and his staff are batting 0% so far this year, which is extremely scary. It's year 3 for recruiting. This is the year we all expected to see the staff hit some home runs due to established relationship and program stability. With only 2 scholarships, they had the ability to be extremely selective. Instead, they struck out everywhere and are chasing a guy that averaged less than 1 point and 1 rebound per game in 13 AAU games, who's only other option is Northwestern because everyone else backed off of him. How can that not concern you? “
“I can understand KY, and I can understand FL, and I can understand Auburn (with Bruce Pearl) and I can understand (gulp) Vandy, but how the hell does TEXAS A&M manage to consistently field a solid hoops team, and yet Barnes can't recruit anyone at all who is above the line?”
“He's been here for 1 year coaching another coach's players....gimme a break”
“I have friends that run/coach high level Summer tournament events that had the likes of Duke, Arizona and even little ETSU there but no one from Tennessee! Or when Barnes spends most of his time in Vegas in July when all the big camps are there and he's at a second tier event Big Shot's tracking Chase Johnson , sitting court side, offers him then this month when Chase is ready to commit to Vols, they say no thanks. He just wasted his time and Tenn. recruiting budget. I know D1 assistant coaches(2) and head coaches (3) that have barely seen Barnes around so no, it's not some of us Tennessee fans that don't know the recruiting calendar, but actual coaches which I'm sure are using it against him in recruiting somehow.”
“New AD will hire new basketball coach, obvious Barnes is mailing it in. He has stabilized the program and if he's here 2-3 years we'll be able to attract a better coach. Let's face it, the men's hoops program has been a couch fire...Barnes gave it legitimacy and will set us up for future success.”
Holly has had no losing season and she never had the players Pat did.. Now she does except PG play and loses by 10 to a top 10 team who will be ranked top 5 soon enough. yet here we are firing the coach that landed 2 top recruiting teams in nation and play all Freshman and 1 So and loses one game thus far. damn we really are dumb.
Before you say I am wrong let me remind you of how we treated Barnes before 2017 run..
Quotes concerning Barnes and Vols BBall before 1st ncaa run -2017
10/2016
“Barnes is a good man. As straight and honest as they come (he won't even post "exaggerated player heights). He's a very good floor coach and good man to "fix" a program that has several years of "issues".
“But.......his recruiting is shameful for a program of this size. We're not KY or one of the 6-10 "blue bloods".....but we should be a respectable Top 25 program most years.”
Now that the program is "stabilized" the sooner we find a more all around top coach the better. We will never be better than lower third of SEC with his recruiting effort. Nobody is a good enough floor coach to make up for the lack of a reasonable level top talent.”
His retirement after this season would be very good timing.
“the highest the program had ever been ranked to start the year.”
“He is going to use our program to experiment with his new coaching philosophy. I don't want new barnes I want old barnes.”
“Barnes is a really good coach, but he is only getting it half right, imho. He still has time to get it right, but if he's not willing to be that guy who went nose to nose with Dean Smith anymore, he needs to get into the mission field with his daughters full time. Bruce Pearl, for all his flaws and warts, was our guy. He's wading into a crowd of rednecks and yelling "Go Vols". That's how most feel about him (except for the pathetic VFF).”
“And I like Coach Barnes. Hope he's successful here. But that was dumb, and kissing Rob Lanier's butt to get him here was dumb.”
“I like Barnes and think he will do exceptionally well for the Vols. His style and expertise on evaluating and developing talent is solid. “
“Please don't ever recruit for the univ of tenn, because you'd be the worst ever at it. You constantly have to try to pull someone from someone else over and over again. You seem to think that Barnes walks into a room , signs five guys, and ascends into heaven. Doesn't work that way.”
“I'm glad Barnes is here. But if he keeps doing what he's doing, and only that, he'll fail. He isn't recruiting at a medium level. He needs to get out there and show why he's a hall of fame coach.”
“I think he coaches hard. I think he coaches fantastically during games and gets the most out of his players.”
But that's only half the equation. You have to have great players to win, that's beyond debatable. And Rick and his staff are batting 0% so far this year, which is extremely scary. It's year 3 for recruiting. This is the year we all expected to see the staff hit some home runs due to established relationship and program stability. With only 2 scholarships, they had the ability to be extremely selective. Instead, they struck out everywhere and are chasing a guy that averaged less than 1 point and 1 rebound per game in 13 AAU games, who's only other option is Northwestern because everyone else backed off of him. How can that not concern you? “
“I can understand KY, and I can understand FL, and I can understand Auburn (with Bruce Pearl) and I can understand (gulp) Vandy, but how the hell does TEXAS A&M manage to consistently field a solid hoops team, and yet Barnes can't recruit anyone at all who is above the line?”
“He's been here for 1 year coaching another coach's players....gimme a break”
“I have friends that run/coach high level Summer tournament events that had the likes of Duke, Arizona and even little ETSU there but no one from Tennessee! Or when Barnes spends most of his time in Vegas in July when all the big camps are there and he's at a second tier event Big Shot's tracking Chase Johnson , sitting court side, offers him then this month when Chase is ready to commit to Vols, they say no thanks. He just wasted his time and Tenn. recruiting budget. I know D1 assistant coaches(2) and head coaches (3) that have barely seen Barnes around so no, it's not some of us Tennessee fans that don't know the recruiting calendar, but actual coaches which I'm sure are using it against him in recruiting somehow.”
“New AD will hire new basketball coach, obvious Barnes is mailing it in. He has stabilized the program and if he's here 2-3 years we'll be able to attract a better coach. Let's face it, the men's hoops program has been a couch fire...Barnes gave it legitimacy and will set us up for future success.”
