What will our returning team look like next year?

[rodneyvolhog]

New QB and a new RB for sure. OL will have experience and the TE slot should be good. WR will be seasoned.

We loose 2 starting DE and the rest of the dLine should have game experience and LB should be better. Tons of secondary return, nut have to be better coach d to look for the ball.

Will need a new Punt returner, but specialists should be back.

We just need to be better coached in a few areas, but I see no reason to see a let down year. We should win the East again next year. JMO

 

[lfvol]

New QB and a new RB for sure. OL will have experience and the TE slot should be good. WR will be seasoned.

We loose 2 starting DE and the rest of the dLine should have game experience and LB should be better. Tons of secondary return, nut have to be better coach d to look for the ball.

Will need a new Punt returner, but specialists should be back.

We just need to be better coached in a few areas, but I see no reason to see a let down year. We should win the East again next year. JMO

If JG is what we hope, given what we have gotten out of OL, non Barnett DL, and the back 7 minus Gaulden, I'd agree with you. If JG is not the guy, who knows how this offense can work?

 

[wesw33z]

punter should be ok. we picked up the townsend kid last year. his brother punts for florida now

john kelly has looked good at rb

 

[FearSmokey]

QB: Jarrett G or Dormady
RB: Kelly/Chandler/Fils-Aime
WR: Malone/Johnson
WR: Jennings/George
WR: Smith/Byrd
TE: Wolf/Johnson
LT: Kendrick/Richmond
LG: Robertson/Mosley
C: Thomas/Boulware
RG: Jones/Sanders
RT: Hall/Tatum

LE: Phillips/Taylor
DT: McKenzie/Johnson
DT: Shy/Vickers
RE: Kongbo/Mixon
MLB: Kirkland/Jumper
OLB: McDowell/Sapp
CB: Moseley/Buchanan
S: Kelly Jr/Berry
S: Abernathy/Warrior
CB: Martin/one of the freshmen (Cotman, Bailey, Labruzza, Wade if he comes here)
NB: Gaulden/Osborne

Still plenty of talent, but the offense will be getting a real makeover with it likely that we will be without Hurd and Kamara in addition to Dobbs graduating. Defense - if it can stay healthy - should improve quite a bit having a year with coach Shoop under its belt and a much easier schedule.

 

[WM Vol]

Dormady, Gurantano, S. Jones battling it out at QB

J. Kelly, Chandler, Fils-Aimee at RB

Malone, B. Johnson
Byrd, J. Smith
Jennings, Callaway (will be a solid WR corp)

Wolf, (then it gets a little hairy, need Pope or Brooks to step up)

OL should be better IMO

LT: Hope Richmond grabs this by the reigns, Kendrick, T. Smith if we can pull that committment
LG: Boulware and Robertson have some competition
C: C. Thomas, need to work Robertson here as well IMO
RG: J. Jones and Ryan Johnson, Hopefully light comes on for C. Mosely
RT: C. Hall with Kendrick getting backup reps, N. Neihaus

DE we take a step back.
Phillips at one spot with Kongbo maybe at another. Mixon has experience and D. Taylor. We get A. Smith back and hopefully he is good. Hopefully the McDaniel kid can help.
DT: I am pretty optimistic on this position. We have Vickers, Tuttle, and McKenzie. Hopefully light comes on for A. Johnson. Picou for emergencies. I really like our DT class. I think both the Gaddy boys play here, Crosby, Bennett.

I for one, hope we find a way to field a 4-3 but in the nickel

OLB: McDowell and Sapp, Berry and Bates for backup.Hopefully we find one or two other good players.
MLB: Kirkland, Jumper, Bituli (hopefully they can get Bituli ready)

Nickel: Gaulden, Osbourne

CB: I hope they give Warrior a look here, think he could start opposite Mosely. But for now:
Moseley, Martin
Buchanan, Osbourne. After that you need to rely on Freshman and I think we will have a good CB class.

SS: Kelly, Jr, (Not sure whats going on with S. Griffin), M. Gray
FS: Abernathy, Warrior if they dont move him to CB, Ev. Berry, T. Jackson

 

[David Somerset]

QB: Jarrett G or Dormady
RB: Kelly/Chandler/Fils-Aime
WR: Malone/Johnson
WR: Jennings/George
WR: Smith/Byrd
TE: Wolf/Johnson
LT: Kendrick/Richmond
LG: Robertson/Mosley
C: Thomas/Boulware
RG: Jones/Sanders
RT: Hall/Tatum

LE: Phillips/Taylor
DT: McKenzie/Johnson
DT: Shy/Vickers
RE: Kongbo/Mixon
MLB: Kirkland/Jumper
OLB: McDowell/Sapp
CB: Moseley/Buchanan
S: Kelly Jr/Berry
S: Abernathy/Warrior
CB: Martin/one of the freshmen (Cotman, Bailey, Labruzza, Wade if he comes here)
NB: Gaulden/Osborne

Still plenty of talent, but the offense will be getting a real makeover with it likely that we will be without Hurd and Kamara in addition to Dobbs graduating. Defense - if it can stay healthy - should improve quite a bit having a year with coach Shoop under its belt and a much easier schedule.

Unless JG blows the doors off, that does not look like a team that should win the East to me. Heck, what would or record be this year without Josh Dobbs?

 

[kpshaver]

The quarterback position will tell the tale. Could be better could be worse could be same.

 

[rmdowell]

punter should be ok. we picked up the townsend kid last year. his brother punts for florida now

john kelly has looked good at rb

Tommy Townsend transferred to UF in the summer. He is not in the roster. Daniel is a RS Jr.

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tenn-m-footbl-mtt.html

 

[curtis b.]

QB: Jarrett G or Dormady
RB: Kelly/Chandler/Fils-Aime
WR: Malone/Johnson
WR: Jennings/George
WR: Smith/Byrd
TE: Wolf/Johnson
LT: Kendrick/Richmond
LG: Robertson/Mosley
C: Thomas/Boulware
RG: Jones/Sanders
RT: Hall/Tatum

LE: Phillips/Taylor
DT: McKenzie/Johnson
DT: Shy/Vickers
RE: Kongbo/Mixon
MLB: Kirkland/Jumper
OLB: McDowell/Sapp
CB: Moseley/Buchanan
S: Kelly Jr/Berry
S: Abernathy/Warrior
CB: Martin/one of the freshmen (Cotman, Bailey, Labruzza, Wade if he comes here)
NB: Gaulden/Osborne

Still plenty of talent, but the offense will be getting a real makeover with it likely that we will be without Hurd and Kamara in addition to Dobbs graduating. Defense - if it can stay healthy - should improve quite a bit having a year with coach Shoop under its belt and a much easier schedule.

I agree except I don't think smith played over Byrd and I am hoping bituli passes jumper

 

[Buddy Stephens]

Short answer: Ass

 

[CUVol]

Martin will not be a Vol in 2017.

 

[Vol_of_Fame]

Qb is a question mark, with a ton of potential to improve. Rb will be different, style and personnel wise. I'm not so sure that our best RB next year is even in the fold yet. Most everywhere else should be comparable, except there is going to be a grand canyon sized drop off at whoever starts for DB. He is without a doubt our most dominant player since EB. And he will surely be missed. Not saying we don't have capable players there, but DB is truly special. Corey Vereen is Jacques Smith 2.0. Starter for 4 years and at the end of his time you're just scratching your head like wtf???

 

[CUVol]

Unless JG blows the doors off, that does not look like a team that should win the East to me. Heck, what would or record be this year without Josh Dobbs?

11-1

 

[SCvoljl]

I really think JG will be the real deal at QB. He had the potential to be even better than Dobbs. I'm excited to see what he can do..... Dormady is good too. Will be a really good QB battle next year!

 

[clad_in_big_orange]

Better at WR, OL (or at least we hope so), QB (yes I said it), DL, Safety,

Slightly worse at RB, LB, CB

Pretty much the same elsewhere

Edit: Took out Punter, thought Daniel was a RS SR.

 

[PLDvol]

How in the world could we worse at linebacker next year?!?!?!?!

We are playing our back ups to the back ups this year.

 

[cbplaya44]

I don't care who is on the field, as long as they are healthy lol

 

[rmdowell]

Better at WR, OL (or at least we hope so), QB (yes I said it), DL, Safety,

Slightly worse at RB, LB, CB, P

Pretty much the same elsewhere

Our punter should be back. He's a RS Jr.

 

[Musteng]

If JG is what we hope, given what we have gotten out of OL, non Barnett DL, and the back 7 minus Gaulden, I'd agree with you. If JG is not the guy, who knows how this offense can work?

I think we will be fine with either JG, QD or SJ at QB next year. I think Dormady is going to be a good one, so if either JG or SJ beats him out they're gonna have to be damn good.

 

[lfvol]

I think we will be fine with either JG, QD or SJ at QB next year. I think Dormady is going to be a good one, so if either JG or SJ beats him out they're gonna have to be damn good.

Do you expect a scheme change or just asking Dormady to manage it better than Worley?

 

[Brink637]

Byrd will start at corner.

 

[Volfan1978]

QB: Jarrett G or Dormady
RB: Kelly/Chandler/Fils-Aime
WR: Malone/Johnson
WR: Jennings/George
WR: Smith/Byrd
TE: Wolf/Johnson
LT: Kendrick/Richmond
LG: Robertson/Mosley
C: Thomas/Boulware
RG: Jones/Sanders
RT: Hall/Tatum

LE: Phillips/Taylor
DT: McKenzie/Johnson
DT: Shy/Vickers
RE: Kongbo/Mixon
MLB: Kirkland/Jumper
OLB: McDowell/Sapp
CB: Moseley/Buchanan
S: Kelly Jr/Berry
S: Abernathy/Warrior
CB: Martin/one of the freshmen (Cotman, Bailey, Labruzza, Wade if he comes here)
NB: Gaulden/Osborne

Still plenty of talent, but the offense will be getting a real makeover with it likely that we will be without Hurd and Kamara in addition to Dobbs graduating. Defense - if it can stay healthy - should improve quite a bit having a year with coach Shoop under its belt and a much easier schedule.

Latrell Williams at WR
Vincent Perry at WR
Bituli at ILB
Smith at DE

These 4 will be in rotation as well

 

[hirz2uotn]

Other than the uniforms, this team will be difficult to recognize next season. At present, the only defensive playmaker is Barnett and he'll be gone. On offense, this team is all about Dobbs, Hurd, and Kamara and all 3 of them will be gone.

So with that said, I don't think anybody can have a clue how we'll do next year. We can only hope that injuries will be less of a factor.

 

[hirz2uotn]

QB: Jarrett G or Dormady
RB: Kelly/Chandler/Fils-Aime - Average
WR: Malone/Johnson - Average
WR: Jennings/George - Good (because of blocking)
WR: Smith/Byrd - Good (this should be Byrd/Smith)
TE: Wolf/Johnson - Average
LT: Kendrick/Richmond - Average
LG: Robertson/Mosley - Average
C: Thomas/Boulware - Good if healthy
RG: Jones/Sanders - Good
RT: Hall/Tatum - Average, maybe good

LE: Phillips/Taylor - Below average
DT: McKenzie/Johnson - Good
DT: Shy/Vickers - Good
RE: Kongbo/Mixon - Average
MLB: Kirkland/Jumper - Good
OLB: McDowell/Sapp - Below average
CB: Moseley/Buchanan - Average
S: Kelly Jr/Berry - Average
S: Abernathy/Warrior - Average
CB: Martin/one of the freshmen (Cotman, Bailey, Labruzza, Wade if he comes here) - Below average
NB: Gaulden/Osborne - Good

Still plenty of talent, but the offense will be getting a real makeover with it likely that we will be without Hurd and Kamara in addition to Dobbs graduating. Defense - if it can stay healthy - should improve quite a bit having a year with coach Shoop under its belt and a much easier schedule.

Earlier this week, a poster used the following rating system for players. I thought it was simple and very clear (Elite, Great SEC player, Good SEC player, Average, Below average, and bust) I've tagged each of the above with one of those labels, or unknown. Not a pretty picture! I don't see a single elite or great SEC player on our whole team. And only a few are above average. And the Guarantano effect is a total unknown.

 

[duzen]

Should be picked as favorites or 2nd in SECE. That's not saying much though.

 

[MMAAP]

punter should be ok. we picked up the townsend kid last year. his brother punts for florida now

john kelly has looked good at rb

What are you talking about? Both Townsends are gheytors.

 

[TN24]

OL should be better IMO

LT: Hope Richmond grabs this by the reigns, Kendrick, T. Smith if we can pull that committment
LG: Boulware and Robertson have some competition
C: C. Thomas, need to work Robertson here as well IMO
RG: J. Jones and Ryan Johnson, Hopefully light comes on for C. Mosely
RT: C. Hall with Kendrick getting backup reps, N. Neihaus

No responding to you directly WM, just commenting overall.

I really think we have some decent talent on our OL but I've just come to the conclusion...based on 4 years of being in this thing with Butch that he needs to overhaul his approach to OL for the SEC. Mahoney IMO needs to go. And we need to address the development of these guys physically. Jack Jones was a nasty OL in HS. He's got that streak. Encourage that, build on that. Richmond physically should be much farther along. The staff raves about Thomas but there is literally nothing strong about him...especially when a nose is lined up on him, he's going to get whipped. Something isn't clicking and the common thread here is Butch and Mahoney for 4 years. Butch isn't going to change his scheme but he can change his philosophy on his approach to conditioning, development and strength of his OL.

 

[cjraney]

Allsome.


Next question?

 

[SpringMillVol]

No responding to you directly WM, just commenting overall.

I really think we have some decent talent on our OL but I've just come to the conclusion...based on 4 years of being in this thing with Butch that he needs to overhaul his approach to OL for the SEC. Mahoney IMO needs to go. And we need to address the development of these guys physically. Jack Jones was a nasty OL in HS. He's got that streak. Encourage that, build on that. Richmond physically should be much farther along. The staff raves about Thomas but there is literally nothing strong about him...especially when a nose is lined up on him, he's going to get whipped. Something isn't clicking and the common thread here is Butch and Mahoney for 4 years. Butch isn't going to change his scheme but he can change his philosophy on his approach to conditioning, development and strength of his OL.

I think I'm coming around to this same view TN. The OL just hasn't been consistent in the Jones era and its hard to see the improvement even without the injuries. One of my concerns coming into this year was the OL, particularly pass protection, and I don't think we have an answer yet if they have improved. Still too many blown up runs and I don't want to think of the sacks that would have accumulated if Dobbs hadn't bailed us out. Hope I'm wrong but getting close to believing it before I see it with the OL.

 

[The power T]

Hopefully the defense will improve the 2nd year under Shoop, hopefully not near as many injuries as this year and hopefully JG or Dormady will be legit. If these things happen, I could absolutely see us winning the east next year. Still won't be as good as the west champion IMO.

 

[zms5027]

No responding to you directly WM, just commenting overall.

I really think we have some decent talent on our OL but I've just come to the conclusion...based on 4 years of being in this thing with Butch that he needs to overhaul his approach to OL for the SEC. Mahoney IMO needs to go. And we need to address the development of these guys physically. Jack Jones was a nasty OL in HS. He's got that streak. Encourage that, build on that. Richmond physically should be much farther along. The staff raves about Thomas but there is literally nothing strong about him...especially when a nose is lined up on him, he's going to get whipped. Something isn't clicking and the common thread here is Butch and Mahoney for 4 years. Butch isn't going to change his scheme but he can change his philosophy on his approach to conditioning, development and strength of his OL.

Agreed. Must fire Mahoney. I'm frequently critical but rarely flat out call for guys to get fired, and that dude has to get fired. If he doesn't, you've got to think he has compromising pictures of Butch, because he might be the worst position coach of my lifetime, and there have been plenty of recruiters over the years who couldn't coach a lick. Maybe none worse than Mahoney, and he isn't a recruiter.

 

[TN24]

Hopefully the defense will improve the 2nd year under Shoop, hopefully not near as many injuries as this year and hopefully JG or Dormady will be legit. If these things happen, I could absolutely see us winning the east next year. Still won't be as good as the west champion IMO.

Dormady and JG may be legit but Dormady is going to get killed without improvement on the OL. 4 years in, this OL has been brutal to QB's. I just don't think it's the talent anymore.

 

[Musteng]

Do you expect a scheme change or just asking Dormady to manage it better than Worley?

I think it would change somewhat and look more like what they ran in Cincinnati, but Imho Dormady has both a stronger arm and considerably more mobility than Worley.

 

[rodneyvolhog]

I think we will be more dangerous with the unknown at QB. I think JG could be really, really good, but have to let QD have the first snaps. He has a strong arm and 2 years in the system.

 

[ejisdabomb2000]

We are going to have a better team. Deeper, more talented, older, and more experienced. Barnett is the only guy who is irreplaceable. But, that long list of DEs will step up and we'll have two guys better than Vereen on both sides. Secondary and LB are only getting more talented and deeper.

JG is the real deal. Will be the next Shuler and possibly better. Not kidding.